Check out this video from Guelph, Canada.
Apparently one of the City water trucks ran over this hose. I cannot tell what size it is but it looks to be at least 4″. The video is taken by people in a stopped transit bus. Pretty wild! Very powerful!
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No commentsYeah, I know that there is a huge EMS Expo going on right now in Dallas. Don’t worry, the Medics have that covered.
What about the National Fallen Firefighters Foundation Memorial Weekend? Will you be attending?
I will be.
I will be there with John Mitchell of FireDaily.com and Willie Wines Jr. of IronFiremen.com (currently still at woodenladdersandironfiremen.blogspot.com).
We will be there set up doing some podcasting (FirefighterNetcast.com) and recording audio for the NFFF. I do not believe we will have any live netcasts at this time, but you never know.
We will be there in the entrance to Memorial Chapel.There is a glass enclosure to the right of side A. That is where we will be!
Please stop in and say hello if you get a chance! We would love to meet you and chat!
Look for a live feed right here at FireCritic.com on Saturday and Sunday as well!
Catch up with me on facebook and twitter as well!
Send me your video, photos, and whatever else from the weekend and I will post them here!
I cannot wait to hear the pipes!
This Saturday I will be posting the live feed from the National Fallen Firefighter Memorial Weekend. You can do the same on your site, or be sure to stop in here and watch it live.
Live Broadcasts:
» Candlelight Service Broadcast: Saturday, October 2, 2010 6:00 – 8:00 p.m. Eastern Time
(Telecast Begins at 6:45 p.m.; Service Begins at 7 p.m. Eastern Time Eastern Time)
» Memorial Service Broadcast: Sunday, October 3, 2010 9:00 am – 12:30 p.m. Eastern Time
(Telecast Begins at 9:30 a.m.; Service Begins at 10 a.m. Eastern Time)
You can find the code to embed it in your site here
Here are some videos about the weekend:
Loveland-Symmes Fire Department engine honors the National Fallen Firefighters Foundation
The National Fallen Firefighters Memorial
This thing is a little slow going but has some of the greats on there!
Just be sure to send any other firehouse pranks to firecritic @ Firecritic.com!
Just wait for 8:20 in!!!! 15:00 is one of the best!
Plus you gotta love the cinnamon dragon!
19:45 is some good stuff too!
Most of this stuff has been on Fire Critic in the past….but it is worth a watch again!
What Coliseum? Only the most famous and one of the oldest on earth.
The Coliseum burned on Sept. 18th, 2010 although there wasn’t a 5th alarm because it was an art installation.
I must admit though that it does look real!
This will be short and sweet.
A private ambo company called the County FD for a lift assist for a 700 lb. person who was being taken back home. The FD told them they couldn’t help them and that it was against policy. The owner of the private ambo company is not happy. (That is my very brief synopsis) Read the article here
Here are my thoughts (they are mostly the opposite of all the other comments):
- I agree with the FD.
- This was not a 911 call.
- This is not what the FD is for.
- The private ambo company should not have taken the transport if they could not complete it.
- The private ambo company is making money on this transport and should not rely on the FD as free labor.
- If the FD is to help them, they are opening themselves up to doing more and more unnecessary calls that they should not be running.
This situation would be different if it were a 911 call or if the FD agreed to bill the private ambo (for profit) company for their assistance. I also see no problem in helping with a lift assist if it were a crew from their department.
Many are faulting the FD for not helping. Why is it their fault? Why isn’t it the private ambo companies fault for not planning, being irresponsible, poor decision making, and all around not caring?
I wrote plenty more in the comments. There are around 70 comments now.
I just do not agree with them and I don’t see their points. I have tried and tried, but I cannot understand how this fits under our ever changing and not so well defined job descriptions.
As always, I am open for the discussion and I can and will adjust my opinion if I am given compelling argument that I didn’t think of otherwise. However, up until this point I have not heard anything that has made me want to change my mind.
Volunteer – a person who performs a service willingly and without pay. (from Dictionary.com)
This post is referencing an article on FireRescue1
When I volunteered, I got $3 a call for responding to a call. I understood this as a perk for my time. However, the County saw it differently as far as I was concerned. It was their way of being able to hold me to certain standards that might not have been followed had I not been reimbursed per call.
Canadian Volunteers in Springfield have earned the right to Unionize. Yeah, I know it sounds like a paradox.
However, these volunteers aren’t really volunteers in the truest sense of the word. They are getting paid.
Vlaming said senior volunteer firefighters get paid $16 an hour for every call they respond to, with a minimum payment per call of two hours.
So, actually what we have here is underpaid firefighters who respond to calls and consider themselves “volunteers”.
You might say that $32 dollars for a call that takes 15 minutes (false alarm) might be decent pay. But what about benefits. You might say that they don’t need them because these firefighters hold full time jobs outside their “volunteer” service.
So what is next? I am not so sure you can consider yourselves “volunteer” if you are a) being paid and b) unionized.
What Union will they join? The IAFF? I don’t think the IAFF will be happy with firefighters being paid w/o benefits! After all, the IAFF does not support volunteer firefighters…with the exception of the two hatters who are career firefighters and volunteer firefighters.
What will the Union contract say? Will they soon be more like “paid” firefighters instead of “volunteer” firefighters?
This is a conundrum.
I don’t know the answer, but this is very interesting and I will have to see how it works out!
Hat tip to Billy Goldfeder on this article.
The Detroit News’ Charlie LeDuff, in partnership with Fox 2 News, finds that response times for paramedics in Detroit can be dangerously long. – detnews.com
Watch this video below…couple this with “Burn – One Year On The Front Lines Of The Battle To Save Detroit” the video on Detroit Fire Department.
First of all, if the Paramedic who was happy to say what needed to be said reads this, we would love to have him on Firefighter Netcast sometime soon (email me at firecritic at firecritic.com).
“The people in this city are dying and who else is going to say it?” – EMS worker
I have to admit that this is a problem plaguing a lot of departments. However, none quite as bad as Detroit.
This video is an eye opener…just watch it!
A friend of mine sent me a link for another video. While looking at it, I couldn’t help but check out the Steaurus 2000.
Imagine rolling up on this baby!
As for the ladies…Imagine being picked up in this baby!
The owner considers this a HighBread…at least that is what it sounds like he says instead of Hybrid!
And to think that all these years I thought maybe I was just a little cool. Then along comes Steve to put me in my place!
When you first see the video you will wonder where the fire is…it quickly shows its face.
The Police Officer had been chasing the vehicle when it flipped. Once the officer pulls up on the overturned vehicle he quickly pulls the fleeing suspect and several other occupants from the vehicle from the car. It is unclear when each person was pulled out, but it is clear that there is still at least one trapped after the fire starts getting out of control.
Couple that with having to try to detain the fleeing suspect and the officer has his hands full!
What is the lesson here? Don’t try to outrun the police!
Red Flag Warning
Author: Kurt Kamm
Published by Aberdeen Bay 2010
ISBN-13: 978-1-60830-029-7 (ISBN-10: 1-60830-029-3)
Serial Arson Mystery (294 pages)
Available for sale at KurtKamm.com for as low as $13.95 or $6.95 on kindle.
Red Flag warning is a detailed mystery set in California during the Santa Ana Winds. Often, the Santa Ana winds will create conditions which are ideal for wildland fire ignition and propagation. These conditions are dubbed “Red Flag Warnings” by the United States National Weather Service.
Kurt Kamm (author) offers a unique mystery surrounding fire set in the Southern California area of Los Angeles. As the reader, you will follow Arson Investigator Captain Jim Kendall while he tries to discover who is setting deadly fires. Kamm also puts you over the shoulder of potential suspects and gives you a decent look into their lives. The interesting thing is that you also get to understand what the arsonist is doing as Kamm introduces NiteHeat. NiteHeat is the arsonist, however it is up to you to figure out who NiteHeat actually is.
This story had me on wanting to finish the book every time I picked it up to read a few more chapters.
With each chapter, the details had me flip flopping on who I thought the actual arsonist (NiteHeat) was. Even up to the last chapter I was still guessing, trying to remember details I had read in the book and attempting my luck at putting two and two together.
This is a book any firefighter will enjoy.
Kamm doesn’t just throw a book together from the comfort of his living room. In the acknowledgments of the book, you can plainly see he did his homework on this book. Kamm, who is not a firefighter, spent two years in wildland firefighting camps and countless other hours with investigators, 911 centers, and even a short stint in jail (for research) to ensure he was getting it right to write a book on this topic.
His ability to entrench himself in the life of the characters he is writing about is outstanding. He spares no detail in building up each character making them seem real to life and does a great job of helping the reader develop the characters in their imagination.
Kamm has lived through several wildfires in his home in Malibu, California.
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Live tonight on Firefighter Netcast – “Is there is too much to know how to do, and do well, for a volunteer to keep up?”
No commentsJoin Firefighter Netcast tonight at 9pm with the topic “Is there is too much to know how to do, and do well, for a volunteer to keep up?” 9pm EST
We will have Josh and Patrick on from the blog No Ambition But One (http://noambitionbutone.wordpress.com/)
The direct show link is here (blog talk radio)
Here is some reading regarding this topic:
No Ambition But One articles on the topic
Patrick – http://noambitionbutone.wordpress.com/2010/08/31/has-the-urban-world-passed-by-the-vollies/
On FireCritic
http://firecritic.com/2010/09/is-this-case-and-point-for-volunteerism-you-be-the-judge/
On Firefighter Nation
This is outstanding.
Some of what I am covering, Dave Statter covered here. I just couldn’t pass up sharing this with my readers (both of you).
I covered the San Bruno fire moments after it started. I spent several hours trying to get the best coverage available. Here is some audio and video from the initial response and fire of the incident.
This event went to 5 alarms in 6 and a half minutes. Water issues plagued the suppression events.
Even the first in units thought that it was a plane crash.
I must admit that the audio sounds fairly calm considering the amount of fire they had on scene.
Every year I have aspirations of writing a post that will truly embody what firefighters think of September 11th.
Every year the date shows up quicker and quicker and I fail. This year is no different.
I remember where I was when it all unfolded. I was at the station working. We happened to have CNN or FoxNews on when they went live with the reports. As the reports unfolded, we watched and listened. The errant reporting of many events that were thought to have happened or were happening that luckily did not along with the history which was made of the senseless killing of so many people, police officers, and 343 firefighters at Ground Zero, the Pentagon, and Shanksville, PA.
I stood watching as the second plane hit the South Tower. The crew at my station was speechless.
Then the towers fell…I remember saying something about imagining how many firefighters had just perished.
9 years later
It is now 9 years later. Some of the firefighters in my department were in Middle or High School when the attacks occurred. It is hard to imagine their thoughts on the day. Does 343 mean the same to them as it does to me. It could be the difference between my thoughts and that of an actual FDNY firefighter who lived through the day.
So many thoughts and so many memories.
Do we still remember? Will we NEVER FORGET. How can some NEVER FORGET if they don’t remember it in the first place?
Are we creating a legacy of REMEMBERING for those in the future who were not even alive for the events?
Here I sit at the fire station on September 11th (trading time with a brother firefighter). We remember, it is hard to forget! What have we done to continue the legacy for those who died on September 11th? Nothing…
Luckily for me there are so many memorial and tribute events, organizations, web sites, and venues to preserve the legacy of our Bravest 343.
What about you?
What are you doing to NEVER FORGET?
Where were you on that day?
What were you doing?
Here is a message from Bobby Halton:
Firefighters are on scene of a large fire in San Bruno near San Francisco California
Firefighter Nation has many links and an article on the fire. They also have a quick link to the twitter feed for #SanBrunoFire
It is amazing how quick news travels on Twitter. Follow the hashtag #SanBrunoFire for more!
Here is the area on Google Maps (link)
The live video was pulled off the site because it was no longer feeding from the San Bruno Fire.
Reports are now saying it is a natural gas pipeline explosion. Possibly two dozen houses have burned.
Neighbors heard an explosion before the fire. Some thought they saw a plane go down. Over a dozen houses have been lost. Video here shows the flames shooting almost 100 feet in the air.
Source: CBS
Not too much wildland involved at this time per radio. There are water supply issues due to water main breaks in the area.
Listen to the fire here (Radio Reference dispatch feed)
I will do what I can to stay updated. Stay tuned, comment with links and I will add them!
First of all, I really appreciate the comments on this topic. I also appreciate it not being turned into a vollie vs. career argument.
You can read the initial post and catch up on what we are talking about here.
And again, I will reiterate that we are not talking about anti-volunteerism, doing away with volunteers, or any of that. We are discussing Volunteering and how much training, knowledge, and experience volunteers need to keep up with Firefighting this day in age.
Today on the Secret List, Billy Goldfeder posted the following:
INDIANA FIREFIGHTERS VIOLATED LABOR LAWS IN ATTEMPTED CONFINED SPACE RESCUE
State officials say Liberty Township Firefighters violated occupational safety and health regulations and as a result, the LTFD is taking corrective action to avoid having to pay a $1,500 fine imposed by the Indiana Department of Labor.
An investigation by DOL found that a team of firefighters who were not trained in confined-space rescue entered a 5-foot-diameter by 12-foot-deep well pit to rescue four people, including two firefighters, who had been overcome by muriatic acid vapor and/or hydrogen sulfide. 2 civilians died that day.
2 Firefighters were overcome by fumes as they tried to rescue the two men, who had entered the pit to make repairs. It is not out of the ordinary to use muriatic acid to clean well pumps, pipes and other components with sulfur buildup and corrosion. Both Firefighters survived.The Liberty Firefighters are taking a proactive and cooperative approach to insure this doesn’t occur again.
The firefighters are volunteer.
You can read more on this story here
Could this be a reflection of the topic we are discussing? Could this have happened anywhere?
Confined Space Rescue and Training are a discipline of firefighting and rescue operations because of lessons learned in the past. Those lessons were learned the hard way = LODD’s. There is no reason at all why firefighters are entering a confined space without proper training.
Feel free to comment as we watch the events unfold in Illinois.
Updated with links to prior confined space deaths and a Safety Stand down due to them:
Gusty winds fanned an extra-alarm fire that took crews over three hours to control at a building in the South Loop early Tuesday.
The fire broke out around 3:20 a.m. at 1326 S. Michigan Ave.
Flames ripped through the roof of the building, a condition which prompted a 2-11 alarm, according to Fire Media Chief Kevin MacGregor. The fire was later upgraded further to a 3-11 alarm.
The fire s More..tarted in the space between the ceiling and roof of the building, MacGregor said. Parts of the building were under renovation.
The flames were heaviest in the rear of the building and destroyed most of the roof, according to MacGregor.
About 80 firefighters were on the scene MacGregor said.
No Ambition But One…”I will make a bold and unpopular pronouncement: there is too much to know how to do, and do well, for a volunteer to keep up.”
17 commentsWhat do you think? I imagine that some of you love that statement and others would like to knock someone’s teeth out right now.
The title line comes from part 1 of articles which can be found on the blog No Ambition But One.
I recommend the articles. They bring up some great points about the fire service. Check it out and let me know what you think.
I think there is certain merit to a lot discussed in these three articles. One thing that stuck in my mind was that two-hatters are spared from this argument. This should be a welcomed sign, typically they get thrown around a little in each debate.
Read part 1 here, part 2 here, and part 3 here.
From part 1: I will make a bold and unpopular pronouncement: there is too much to know how to do, and do well, for a volunteer to keep up.
From part 2: It’s high time for the fire service to quit trying to do everything and focus on selling what we do best.
From part 3: It’s quite obvious that a guy who is working a “real job” 60+ hours a week can hardly master the science of the fire service, much less the art of what we do. Hell, I spend much more time than that at work every week and still have very little idea of what’s going on.
You guys (both of you) should know by now that I don’t talk about my time on the job too much. Not that I am keeping my location or my department a secret, I just don’t get into too much detail. On occasion I have a photo of a fire I was on and I will share it.
This post is different in two ways. I am posting about my job, and I don’t have any photos.
A couple of weeks ago, I told @medic61 (who lives near me) that if she wanted to ride along she was more than welcome. We set up a good day for both of us and I set it up.
I will refer to the ride along as Medic 61 because I am not sure if everyone is supposed to know her true identity.
The ride along was set for this past Sunday. I started my shift and rode the medic unit (I know it is hard to believe, but I volunteered to ride it….3rd time this year). Medic 61 and I would be riding with a Paramedic from my company. This was the first time that he and I would be on the medic unit together! Wahoo!
Medic 61 shows up right when we sat down to breakfast. We got her a plate and some orange juice and she met the crew.
Ride alongs usually go one of two ways…There is a black cloud over you the whole day or you don’t run any calls.
That Sunday would be a ride along to remember.
After breakfast, I showed her the station and the apparatus. Right when we started going over the medic unit, I remembered that she hadn’t filled out the release to ride along. I took her to the watch desk to fill it out. Before she could even put her name on it we got toned out for a house fire.
I know what you are thinking…Bullshit!
No, really. We caught a house fire. Albeit not a barn burner, it was a house fire nonetheless.
Before we cleared up, I had her finish filling out the release.
Next call… partial amputation of a toe. I took the pt. BLS in the back to the hospital. That’s right, my alter ego is the EMSCritic (don’t even think about it. I ordered the domain right after typing it!).
Next call… full medical code.
We ended up running a couple more calls while she was with us. The guys at the station weren’t sure if she was the black cloud or if I was since I don’t ride that often.
I assured them they wouldn’t have to worry about me being the black cloud. I got enough of the medic unit for the next year!
All in all, I had a blast. As for Medic 61, I am not sure she could have asked for much more!
You can follow Medic 61 on twitter @medic61 or on her blog here.
All that and I forgot to take one picture with her and I.
The liveleak video is below after the description:
Some extraordinary video to go along with some extraordinary bravery Sunday morning.
Three Gordon County sheriff’s deputies are being called heroes tonight, after saving the life of a man in a burning car. And its all caught on a troopers dashcam.
The crash happened early this morning on I-75 near exit 317. A passerby called police about a bad accident there.
Meanwhile, the car is on fi More..re and 56 year-old Dan Gloth of Cartersville is trapped inside.
Deputies swarm on the scene and try to get him out, despite several explosions that light up the pre-dawn darkness.
Finally Gloth is extracted and airlifted to a hospital in Tennessee.
Netcasting at FRI…The Voice of Reason with Sean Garrity from Rescue Me, Firefighter Netcast, and in Introduction to FireHero Radio
No commentsLast week, John Mitchell and I met up in Chicago for Fire Rescue International. I was accompanied by my good friend Willie Wines Jr. (IronFiremen.com) and we enjoyed a good bit of room in the Fire Rescue Magazine booth.
First of all, we had a blast. We were able to run into a bunch of great friends and meet plenty of new ones.
While we were there we had many things to accomplish:
- Record podcasts for Fire Rescue Magazine Editor-In-Chief Tim Sendelbach and many great guests.
- Record the first of many FireHero Radio sessions for the National Fallen Firefighter Foundation with Dave Statter.
- Record a “The Voice of Reason” show with host Art Goodrich and guests Rob Schnepp and Steven Pasquale (plays Sean Garrity on Rescue Me).
- Record several other podcasts/netcasts for The Firefighter Netcast Show.
Amazingly enough, we were able to accomplish all of them. Unfortunately for us, we had many technical issues we had to overcome. Lessons have been learned and we will be more efficient next time.
The first of our shows was The Voice of Reason featuring Art Goodrich, Rob Schnepp, and Steven Pasquale. Steven plays firefighter Sean Garrity on Rescue Me. You can listen to their show right here from Firefighter Netcast or you can watch it on Youtube below. This is the first videocast that Firefighter Netcast has produced.
Read more about the show at ChiefReasonArt.com.
Many thanks to all who made that happen.
We were also able to record two shows including 3 interviews for FireHero Radio. FireHero Radio is a new project we are working on with Dave Statter for the National Fallen Firefighter Foundation. Listen to them below.
- FireHero Radio from the National Fallen Firefighters Foundation: A talk about the Everyone Goes Home Program with Ralph Webster and Mike Brooks
- FireHero Radio from the National Fallen Firefighters Foundation: Richard Gist discusses NFFF’s Behavioral Health initiative; A talk with NFFF Director of Fire Programs Victor Stagnaro.
Art Goodrich, Rob Schnepp, Steven Pasquale, John Mitchell, and Rhett Fleitz
As for The Firefighter Netcast Show, we were able to record a short interview with Motorola on their new radio the APX 7000XE. We will have that online soon.
We also planned a post show recap of what the went on at Fire Rescue International. That didn’t quite work out the way we planned due to more technical difficulty. However, we were able to have Dave Statter and his wife Hillary Howard on the show to discuss the National Fallen Firefighters Memorial. You can listen to that right here.
The FireRescue Magazine podcasts will be available by the beginning of the week hopefully.
We had a blast hanging out with everyone. More to come in the future!
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Firefighter Netcast “The Voice of Reason” With Steven Pasquale of Rescue Me and Rob Schnepp At Fire Rescue International 2010
Firefighter Netcast “The Voice of Reason” With Steven Pasquale of Rescue Me and Rob Schnepp At Fire Rescue International 2010
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Firefighter Netcast offers you this interview with Art “Chief Reason” Goodrich on “The Voice of Reason” With Steven Pasquale of Rescue Me and Rob Schnepp
Art Goodrich posted about this interview here: http://chiefreasonart.com/2010/09/01/…
ChiefReasonArt – http://chiefreasonart.com
You can listen to the podcast the usual way (the player at the top of this post). Or, you can enjoy Firefighter Netcast’s first videocast of this event below as seen on youtube.
Art Goodrich, Rob Schnepp, and Steven Pasquale
Art Goodrich, Rob Schnepp, and Steven Pasquale
Art Goodrich, Rob Schnepp, and Steven Pasquale
Art Goodrich, Rob Schnepp, and Steven Pasquale
Art Goodrich, Rob Schnepp, and Steven Pasquale interview (Rhett Fleitz and John Mitchell can be seen producing)
Art Goodrich, Rob Schnepp, and Steven Pasquale interview (Rhett Fleitz and John Mitchell can be seen producing)
Art Goodrich, Rob Schnepp, and Steven Pasquale
Art Goodrich, Rob Schnepp, and Steven Pasquale
Steven Pasquale (Sean Garrity on Rescue Me)
Steven Pasquale (Sean Garrity on Rescue Me)
Art Goodrich, Rob Schnepp, Steven Pasquale, John Mitchell, and Rhett Fleitz
Art Goodrich, Rob Schnepp, Steven Pasquale, John Mitchell, and Rhett Fleitz
Willie Wines Jr. and Steven Pasquale
Willie Wines Jr. and Steven Pasquale
Art Goodrich and Steven Pasquale
Art Goodrich and Steven Pasquale
Steven Pasquale and Rob Schnepp
Steven Pasquale and Rob Schnepp
Steven Pasquale and Rob Schnepp
Steven Pasquale and Rob Schnepp
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FireHero Radio from the National Fallen Firefighters Foundation: A talk about the Everyone Goes Home Program with Ralph Webster and Mike Brooks
Honesty is ALWAYS the Best Policy…Lesson Hopefully Learned by Chief Taylor in High Point, NC
2 commentsHigh Point, NC Fire Department is in the local news. The Chief is answering questions about his chuckle and lack of action after an FEO told him about a mold problem at firehouse #12.
As I have observed during my tenure in the fire service Fire Chiefs are always under scrutiny. Due to that fact, it is very difficult to cover up lies and half truths. I have realized that honesty is the best policy and that you must be willing to pay the consequences for your words and actions.
All of that being said, we have a little bout of mis-communication within the High Point Fire Department. That mis-communication was unmistakably proved false via recording. Watch the video and follow the stories below:
- Firefighters Concerned Mold Problems Could be Widespread
- Communication Breakdown: Fire Chief Apologizes for Mold Issue
- Audio: High Point Fire Dept. July Staff Meeting
- Toxic Mold Concerns Force High Point Fire Station to Close
HIGH POINT, N.C. (WGHP) – High Point Fire Chief David Taylor is blaming miscommunication as why he did not act immediately when a firefighter told him there was a mold problem at one of the department’s stations.
Although Taylor says he didn’t learn that Station No. 12 had a mold problem, FOX8 News has obtained a recording of a staff meeting that informed the chief of the problem back in July.
“I’m sorry about the miscommunication, Taylor told FOX8 News. “When firefighters talk about an apple and I’m talking about an orange, it might take a little while to put that all together.
I highlighted the above for effect. What exactly does that mean? I think that they were very clear about the mold problem in the telephone meeting. But what the hell do I know.
It just seems to me that whether or not the Chief’s story is true, he would have come out smelling a lot better if he had just owned up to the mistake and gone on and fixed the problem.
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